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Mad Minute
« on: February 14, 2013, 19:08:41 »
"Mad Minute" was term used by the Britons in the eve of WW1. It meant sending at least two magazines of lead (per minute) towards the target from their SMLEs (mag=10 rds). Most of the pre war trained infantrymen held at around 30 rds/min. When the Germans first faced [it] they got scared as hell. Why?
Check it out:
Very Fast Mad Minute from a SMLE- 10 Shots in 6.5 Seconds
« Last Edit: February 15, 2013, 00:44:07 by Dinko »
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Re: Mad Minute (SMLE)
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 00:50:18 »
TOP 10:Combat Rifles - Lee Enfield No4(No.3)

Indeed, so heavy was the British rifle fire throughout the battle that the Germans thought they were facing batteries of machine guns.[29]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mons#cite_ref-29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mons
http://www.firstworldwar.com/battles/mons.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_minute

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Re: Mad Minute
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 01:16:59 »
Edit... translated...

Well I reading the description on Wiki and I saw the video but Im not so sure that the aming is precise...
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Re: Mad Minute
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 11:56:08 »
Precision does not mean that much when yer firing at the German battalion advancing in the open at 3-4 hundred yards distance - with that rate of fire your bound to hit somebody. Keep in mind that tactics used in 1914 was something completely different from that used in Spring of 1918 - densely packed waves of assailants aiming to carry the enemy positions by sheer force, not small assault groups bent on flanking and infiltration.

This guy fires standing up, but imagine the rifle barrel resting on some wall or sandbag - as defending troops are usually deployed in cover - precision would be much higher. Also, hissing of bullets that missed bodies plays a large part in ruining enemys morale, especially when theres plenty of them.
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Re: Mad Minute
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2013, 22:13:21 »
If you'd ask me, this sort of tactics was only useful at the begging of the war, as it was described before, due to use of chivalry way of battles which got extinct someway through the war (too bad because I liked it  :) ). Recoil here, as seen on the video, is probably much less than of much more modern .30 cal in WWII. If you'd ask me, both hit and death ratio seem to be very high in the hands of skilled rifleman. I'd say somewhere around 0.7 hit ratio and 0.4-0.5 death ratio. Of course, only in the beginning of the Great War. Totally useless in WWII.  ;)

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Re: Mad Minute
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2013, 23:59:21 »
Up to the Battle of River Marne it was possible to employ SMLEs in "mad minutes", but when armies went to ground in Autumn of 1914, that was mostly it. Mad minute skills might have been useful now and then in trench rides and such undertakings, not in pitched battle.
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