Hrvatski povijesni forum

Jesu li ikada u novije doba Englezi,spominjali predaju Hrvatske vojske Partizanima,znam da je poslije rata Lord Tolstoj optuživao direktno Lorda Aldingtona da je direktno odgovoran za izručenje,a da je znao da slijedi masakr,jer je dobivao informacije od Britanskih obavjestajaca što se dogada u Sloveniji,jednom je čak bilo i na BBC o tome

http://youtu.be/aX9BW5ZJW6w

sa BBC o Blajburgu

Dogovor koji je potpisan još na Jalti,to znam,a predani su Partizanima zato da se Partizani povuku iz djelova Austrije jer je došlo do velikih tenzija između 8 armije i partizana jer su zapovjednici 8.armije čak tražili od štaba u Kazerti da pucaju na Partizane,nego jeli se ikada kasnije čulo u Engleskoj osim Tolstoja u novije doba,i koliko je to poznato osim u Hrvatskoj negdje drugo

Quote from: El Bahattee on April 28, 2012, 01:43:53

Dogovor koji je potpisan još na Jalti,to znam,a predani su Partizanima zato da se Partizani povuku iz djelova Austrije jer je došlo do velikih tenzija između 8 armije i partizana jer su zapovjednici 8.armije čak tražili od štaba u Kazerti da pucaju na Partizane,nego jeli se ikada kasnije čulo u Engleskoj osim Tolstoja u novije doba,i koliko je to poznato osim u Hrvatskoj negdje drugo

Sastanak na Jalti se odvijao 4-11 Februara 1945 godine, a dogadjaji u Austriji su 8-15 Maj 1945.Po tebi , ovi na Jalti su znali 3 mjeseca unaprijed da ce 8 Armija bas biti u Austriji, i da ce ustaska banda biti tamo

Dogovoreno je na Jalti da se zarobljenici predaju protiv onih koji su ratovali,gledaj na teme sa povijesne strane ne ideološke niko nije rekao da stoji za Ustaše niti ih veličamo,samo rasprava.Hvala!!

Key points of the meeting are as follows:

    Agreement to the priority of the unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany. After the war, Germany and Berlin would be split into four occupied zones.
    Stalin agreed that France might have a fourth occupation zone in Germany and in Austria but it would have to be formed out of the American and British zones.
    Germany would undergo demilitarization and denazification.
    German reparations were partly to be in the form of forced labor. (see also Forced labor of Germans in the Soviet Union). The forced labor was to be used to repair damage Germany inflicted on its victims.[8]
    Creation of a reparation council which would be located in the Soviet Union.
    The status of Poland was discussed. It was agreed to reorganize the communist Provisional Government of the Republic of Poland that had been installed by the Soviet Union "on a broader democratic basis."
    The Polish eastern border would follow the Curzon Line, and Poland would receive territorial compensation in the West from Germany.
    Churchill alone pushed for free elections in Poland.[9] The British leader pointed out that the UK "could never be content with any solution that did not leave Poland a free and independent state". Stalin pledged to permit free elections in Poland, but forestalled ever honoring his promise.
    Citizens of the Soviet Union and of Yugoslavia were to be handed over to their respective countries, regardless of their consent.
    Roosevelt obtained a commitment by Stalin to participate in the UN.
    Stalin requested that all of the 16 Soviet Socialist Republics would be granted UN membership. This was taken into consideration, but 14 republics were denied.
    Stalin agreed to enter the fight against the Empire of Japan within 90 days after the defeat of Germany.
    Nazi war criminals were to be hunted down and brought to justice.
    A "Committee on Dismemberment of Germany" was to be set up. Its purpose was to decide whether Germany was to be divided into six nations

Nigdje se ne spominje "hrvatska vojska", ni NDH, jer ne postoje...pa govorimo o oruzanoj bandi 
koja ako nosi oruzje otvoreno, i ima oznake, moze da potpadne pod dve od konvencija, ali ne mora, ako se nadje kod nekog skriveno oruzje.S ozbzirom na to da je kapitulacija njemackih snaga stupila na snagu 9 Maja 1945, i kapitulacionim aktom nije bilo vise moguce nastavljanje pokreta trupa pod njemackom komandom, 15 Maja , nije vise vazila nikakva konvencija